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Robin Powell






An experienced television journalist, Robin runs Regis Media, a UK-based content marketing consultancy which helps financial advice firms around the world to attract, retain and educate clients.

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When, if ever, should you negotiate on fees?


Do you ever get resistance to the fees you're trying to charge?

I’m certain that everyone has faced-off with a ‘negotiator’ client more than a few times in their career. What should you do if you’re sitting across the table from one?

Do you:

  • Hang tough and tell them it's this fee or nothing? (and risk losing some work)

  • Negotiate? (which means discounting your fee)

If you negotiate:

  • When does it make sense to do so?

  • And importantly, when doesn't it make sense to do so?

And what about these issues?

  • Do these ‘negotiator’ clients negotiate with everyone they meet?

  • Would they have tried to negotiate you downwards from whatever starting point you set?

  • Do you communicate the benefits of your service well enough?

  • Are you value for money at the fee levels you want to charge?

Oh my goodness. So many things to consider.

If you ask 20 advisers, you'll probably get 21 different answers.

It’s a really confusing issue, particularly for less experienced advisers, or those who are not quite sure of their value proposition.

Don’t be bamboozled by any bolshy types who give you their tuppence worth. I guarantee you they felt just like you did somewhere on their journey.

When you’re sitting in front of a ‘negotiator’, you have to have your own thinking crystal clear and that needs to be developed away from the client meeting room. You can’t wing this one in live combat.

The real issue

In my experience people negotiate with you when you are not 100% sure of yourself. The minute you get 100% clear, they stop appearing in your life. Or if they do appear, you strike them down before they get very far, because you are absolutely clear on where you add value.

Understanding your own value and being able to demonstrate and communicate it to clients is the key.

I know some advisers try to justify their fees by explaining to clients that they are taking on risk when they take on a client. I hate that approach. Even though it’s true, as a client I’ll be thinking to myself, “if you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen.” I just won’t understand or appreciate your argument. It sounds like a moan.

Others use the “compliance burden” argument with clients. I hate that too. “Not my problem”, is what I’ll be thinking as you tell me that one.

What are some of the things advisers do that add value to clients?

  • Saving them time;

  • Cutting through any jargon;

  • Providing a clearer understanding of their choices;

  • Calculating a financial target they can work towards;

  • Validating a target that they've come up with themselves;

  • Providing an expert second opinion;

  • Keeping them on track and aligned with their real life goals;

  • Removing the emotional pain or fear around a financial decision;

  • Or helping them manage their emotional baggage around money.

It's a pretty decent list.

But you do more than that. You add value to people in cold hard cash, too.

And it's showing clients these cash wins that makes it easier for them to see and understand your value, before they come to understand your true worth, which is providing certainty and peace of mind.

Knowing how and where you add value definitely helps with the negotiators.

So in a lot of cases, rather than negotiate, you'll want to "show" clients how you add value in cash. That might be built into your client engagement process, via the use of case studies, or stories that you tell along the journey.

Defence against the dark arts

The best defence against the ‘negotiators’ is to be asking great questions at your very first meeting with a new prospective client. Asking great questions allows the client to discover for themselves what the big issues are that they face. Rather than you telling them, they sort of work out that they don’t have a pension problem, or an investment problem, they have a “How much is enough problem”, or a “Will my money last as long as I do” problem.

The person who gives them that realisation is hugely valuable. It’s then far less likely that they’ll be haggling over fees.

When should you consider discounting?

Believe it or not, there is a time and a place to consider agreeing to a discount.

One of the characteristics of selling a service is that you can't store inventory.

If I sell widgets, I can make the same number of widgets in my factory every week (regardless of demand) and store them up now, because I might sell more at Christmas time. I can manage fluctuating demand by accumulating stock or running down my stored inventory if demand increases.

In a service business, like Financial Planning, you can’t store stock. If you are not busy this week, you’ve lost that production forever. Because of that fact, discounting can make sense as a strategy.

So if your negotiating client is giving you a hard time while you’ve got five other large, well paying jobs in the pipeline, you don’t discount.

But if they are your only job in the pipeline and the difference between securing them or not is discounting a bit, I might decide to do it. At least that way I haven’t wasted this week’s capacity.

Discounting is not a long-term strategy for success

Clearly, this is only true in the short term. If you find yourself discounting all the time, you are going to pay long-term consequences in your net profit margins (refer to my blog Getting to know your firm's numbers). However, if it only happens sometimes, on some jobs, I wouldn’t be overly worried.

Large jobs

Large jobs do sometimes warrant a discount from your standard pricing, because at the end of the day you’ve only got to get paid ‘enough’. If the job is big enough, and I still think I’m going to get paid enough, I might accept a discounted price if I felt it was the difference between getting the job and losing the job.

If I secure a client today at a discount, I can always go back in 2 or 3 years and try again to fix the fee level. In 3 years I’ll know more, have more skills, and might have so many new clients that I actually don’t care if they accept or reject my offer. That is, I’m in a stronger position financially than I was 3 years ago.

On the flipside, some jobs paying larger headline fees can also demand a lot of you and your team’s time, and not be profitable at all. So be careful pricing these.

The conclusion

As I’m sure you’ve worked out for yourself by now, a lot of these decisions on pricing and negotiation are going to be firm and situation-specific. What’s the right decision for one firm, may be totally wrong for another.

If you can be clear on where and how you add value to clients, you’ll find the ‘negotiators’ become a non-issue for you and your business.

Let me know how you go.

BRETT DAVIDSON is chief executive of FP Advance, a boutique consulting firm that specialises in working with growing and aspiring financial planning firms.

Here are a few previous articles that he's provided to Adviser 2.0:

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